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timdufelmeier 
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I'm dying to get ahold of this rose if anybody knows a source please let me know I'll pay anything you want
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A most floriferous rose (almost unbelievable, freakish)
in in Los Angeles. Huge, petal packed
blooms, big clusters. I bought it despite the weak scent which almost never happens amongst my multiple hundreds of rose purchases. See my photos for verification.
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Simply fantastic mini-flor. PERFECT buds and blooms. Very clear medium-pale lavender but not Grey. Very vigorous, heavy bloomer, tall bush, long stems. Magnificent clusters with up to 8 or 9 flowers, each one perfect. Also has single stemmed blooms alongside the candelabras.
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25 FEB 04 by
Anonymous-797
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I just read Gwen's review of Stainless Steel. As an organic gardener, I would recommend to anyone living near a coastal area to avoid hybrid teas and grow rugosas instead. Hybrid teas require too much fertilizer and insecticides (environmental "unbalance"). Rugosas are native to seaside areas and are tough, fragrant, and require little fertilization and attention. They hate all types of spraying. They practically grow in sand in their native provinces. The best performing plants of any kind are either native species or those grown in areas that mimic their original surroundings. Gwen would have an easier time making the switch. Please be assured-this is not an inappropriate comment, just sound advice for gardeners like myself who treasure our earth.
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#1 of 15 posted
28 APR 05 by
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I live on the coast which rugosas do you recommend?
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Please email me and let me know what size you have in mind. Do you have a large or small garden? More hybrids have appeared on the market to help us with the shrinking size of our garden space. I can narrow down the choices for you if size is an issue. If not, then I'll give you the names of some good ones. By the way, any particular color choice? Victoria
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Dear Cecile; I did reply to you, but I don't know if the message got through to you. Please let me know. Thanks, Victoria. I apologize for taking so long to reply. I did not realize that I had received a reply until last week. Sincerely, Victoria. PS-I actually gave you a list of rugosas and landscaping roses. If you did not receive it, I will write it again and re-send it.
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Dear Celia; I apologize for misspelling your name. Please let me know if you received my list of rugosas. Thank you, Victoria
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#5 of 15 posted
23 MAY 05 by
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I HAVE PLENTY OF ROOM. I NEVER DID RECEIVE THE LIST OF RUGOSAS.
THANKS FOR THE INFO.
CELIA
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Dear Celia; I will send you a list tomorrow evening. I wrote a long list for you but evidently the program did not transmit. I'll be in touch shortly. It is 1:30 a.m. here. Blessings, Victoria
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Celia, I have twice sent you a list of rugosas that was a page long, and each time the list did not transmit. Is there some way that I can send the list to you directly or through another website? The only information that I see posted is the addendum about the yellow rugosas, and this is an afterthought that closes out the huge list that I sent to you. I wrote a list of rugosas by colors and sizes, and the names of hybridizers. Victoria
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Celia, I forgot to tell you that the yellow rugosas have a reputation for not being as disease resistant as the red, pink or purple varieties. I have a pavement rugosa that does get some rust, but that does not prevent it from blooming or developing new, disease-free foliage. As a matter of fat, rugosas hate being sprayed with any kind of chemical, and the leaves will be damaged if they are sprayed. They are tough enough to shake off anything but human abuse. I hope this helps. If you do decide on a rose, you may wish to log onto helpmefind,com or everyrose.com for more information about individual varieties. I am also container-growing Henry Hudson-disease free. Sincerely, Victoria
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Celia, this is a third try at getting a rugosa list to you. I may have to do this in several postings. I am going to give you several websites, and you can read the characteristics of each rugosa and see what sounds right for your garden. Look up www.ashdownroses.com; www.weAREroses.com (this is the Antique Rose Emporium);www.arenaroses.com; www.kedemroses.com. These nurseries sell own-root rugosas of every color and size. Wayside Gardens and White Flower Farm also have rugosas, but they may be grafted. I don't recommend them if you live in a cold climate. Ralph Moore, the "miniature rose king," has just hybridized and introduced the first striped rugosa,"Moore's Striped Rugosa." The site is www.sequoianursery.biz. This rose grows to about three feet. If you want roses for a warm climate, always go with the hybrids. The species rugosas prefer cooler climates. The "Pavement" series of rugosas are for smaller gardens. Arena Roses is selling a floribunda for the coast: "Preference." It is in their catalog. Some of the Agricultural Canada roses are also disease resistant. A good groundcover is Charles Albanel. You may also want to try "The Fairy." It is a polyantha, but it is very disease resistant and extremely rugged. It will bloom in almost near-shade in very warm or hot conditions. The websites that I have given you have separate listings for rugosas. I hope this helps. Victoria. PS_Rugosas have thorns like nails. The larger roses make good barrier plantings. The smaller ones can be grown in containers.
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Recommended larger rugosas: Topaz Jewel (yellow)
Sarah Van Fleet
Fru Dagmar Hastrup (also Hartopp)
Hansa
Blanc Double de Coubert
Linda Campbell
Jens Munk: many rugosas have beautiful hips that can be made into jelly, tea or left on the bush for birds. I like to eat them raw, sweet and crunchy.--high in vit c.
David Thompson
Martin Frobisher
Smaller: Pavement series
Foxi Pavement
Pink, Purple, Pierette, Showy, White, Pristine Pavement
Henry Hudson
Schneezwerg
Rotes Meer
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Do please be aware that if you live in coastal New England Rosa rugosa, while beautiful in the garden, can become invasive (which is why it's so prevalent along some of the beaches).
Furthermore, while it's a terrific landscaping flowering shrub (truly!), if you plan to cut your roses to bring indoors and enjoy in vases, Rosa rugosa and its various color iterations (such as Rosa rugosa alba, a magnificent white rose that is brilliant white without a hint of any other color, a rarity in white roses) has almost no vase life at all. In the vase the flowers can shatter within hours.
(That may not be true of the rugosa hybrids with other species. I am not familiar with their vase lives.)
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Why would any self respecting hmf member even want to live in a world without HYBRID TEAS? What a dreadful concept!
Rugosas are devine but I WANT AND NEED MY HYBRID TEAS. I live in a little coastal town called Los Angeles, California and I have never even considered using sprays on my 400 roses neither do my rosemaniac friends.
Until rugosas grow
Like STAINLESS STEEL
Only hybrid teas can
Fill the bill
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#13 of 15 posted
2 JAN 13 by
goncmg
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Your comme made me laugh, I love it, I feel the same way. Not a rose in existence that I don't love but love Hybrid Teas.....
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Totally agree (also live in So Cal - out Pasadena way) and I love my hybrid teas! Got rid of my rugosas because I didn't need a rose to take over the garden.
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I too can't imagine a life without HTs! I lived at the beach for 8 years, on the Pierpont Bay lanes, Ventura, CA, about 800 ft. from the bay. I "doctored" the soil (if you can call sand "soil") with cal-pro and earthworms. I found that earthworms literally converted the sand into soil. I bought a lot of earthworms to do that. I had Stainless Steel, Blue Girl, Pope John Paul II, Black Baccara, Speelwark, Gold Medal and 4 other various colors but can't remember their names. The only one to get any disease was BB, who got mildew. No insect problems. I sprayed BB every 3 months with the bicarb solution which controlled it. I used natural fertilizers, e.g. alfalfa pellets, cottonseed meal, etc.
Moved back to Portland in 2013 with acidic soil, e.g. 4 to 4.5 ph. Have had nothing but problems with blackspot, mildew (not as much) and canker. Rose expert advised that soil ph is the problem. Rose defenses decline if soil is not near neutral as they can't absorb nutrients in the soil. Very excited to see the results next Spring.
Because we have soooo much rain here, I also have an ongoing battle with moles. They have decimated my Portland earthworm population. But now I am armed and dangerous...caught one this week.
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