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RoseKeepsake (hybrid tea, Kordes 1973) most recent 20 APR 22 SHOW ALL

Initial post 13 SEP 08 by wordycat

Reply #1 of 1 posted 20 APR 22 by HMF supporting member

MADActuary

14 years too late with this response but in my experience with the HT Esmeralda/Keepsake (starting back in about 1993) it doesn't really have any orange in the bloom. It's more of a pink blend and it's white that blends with the pink. Those photos posted are in fact orange, like you wondered about, but those photos are NOT Esmeralda/Keepsake unless their camera is really on the fritz.

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RoseBolero ™ (floribunda, Mouchotte/Meilland, 2004) most recent 14 MAR 18 SHOW ALL

Initial post 31 JAN 07 by Anonymous-102305

Reply #1 of 6 posted 10 MAY 07 by wordycat

I also love this rose! Absolutely beautiful and smells good to boot. I was wondering if your plant has developed sturdy stems,mine has not. I know I am growing this rose in not the sunniest part of my garden but I looked at some of the photos from this website and their stems were not too sturdy looking either. I am thinking about buying another plant because I love it so much. I would like to know how the stems look in your hot climate. Thanks.

Reply #2 of 6 posted 10 MAY 07 by Anonymous-102305

My plant is in a sunny location. The plant is one year old and it has developed sturdier stems but they are not as sturdy as many plants. The heavy flowers do nod a bit.	REPLY

Reply #3 of 6 posted 11 MAY 07 by wordycat

Reply #4 of 6 posted 3 MAR 09 by Jeff Britt

I don't have this rose, but have seen it planted and I think the flowers are just too big and heavy for the stems. The stems seem to be up to the job until the flowers begin to open. All those petals, fully hydrated and extended, must weigh a lot! I don't think you can avoid the nodding flowers, but full sun and avoiding to much nitrogen at the roots should help you avoid too much disappointment.	REPLY

Reply #5 of 6 posted 5 MAR 09 by wordycat

Thank you for your reply. I am familiar with heavy, nodding flowers on other plants such as Austins but the stems look in scale with the flowers. My Bolero has the shortest, thinnest stems. I will try your suggestions. Once again, thank you!	REPLY

Reply #6 of 6 posted 14 MAR 18 by Matthew W. Gerber

Short stems and nodding flowers are characteristics of some varieties of roses, not necessarily faults. 'Bolaro' is part of Star Roses "Romantica" series, their answer to the David Austin roses. Hybrid teas have long, tall and straight stems. Nodding flowers on a hybrid tea would be a fault, and breeders reject such hybrid tea seedlings in their breeding programs. I grow 'Bolero' and consider the short stems and nodding flowers an attractive characteristic, reminiscent of Old Fashioned roses. We are fortunate that the world of roses offers us thousands of choices to meet our individual likes and dislikes.

RoseEnfant de France (Hybrid Perpetual, Lartay, 1860) most recent 27 DEC 17 SHOW ALL

Initial post 22 OCT 07 by wordycat

This is a very beautiful rose! I won best novice at my local rose society's rose show this year with it. I was wondering if anyone can tell me more about this rose. It does not rebloom at all for me and has a big problem with powdery mildew. Any comments would be appreciated!	REPLY

Reply #1 of 1 posted 27 DEC 17 by Phuong

I don't have problems with powdery mildew, but I also have problem of no flowering. Quite disappointed.	REPLY

RoseCrown Princess Margareta ® most recent 8 JUN 17 SHOW ALL

Initial post 23 SEP 07 by wordycat

I bought this rose in the January this year and put it in a pot to see if I liked the color, I do and would like to put it in the ground this year. Does anyone know how big it grows? It appears to want to grow big and climb. I'm in zone 7, Northern Ca. Any advice would be appreciated.	REPLY

Reply #1 of 7 posted 12 MAY 08 by HMF supporting member

Kathy Strong

It has been in the ground for about a year in my Zone 10 garden. Nice spreading habit, unlike other Austins around here that want to go straight up and bloom once at the top of one giant cane. Kind of a floppy habit actually, which I like. But the claim that the "average bloom" is 4" in diameter is wishful thinking. More like 3.	REPLY

Reply #2 of 7 posted 19 DEC 08 by Jeff Britt

Mine has been in the ground for 2 years, also in Zone 10. The first year it moped a bit, but has begun to send up some big new canes this year. Next year, I expect it will really take off. The flowers are lovely -- a true orange in the cool spring weather -- full of petals, but no way are they 4 inches. Three inches seems reasonable. The new growth is a lovely coppery bronze and looks great with the flowers. Rebloom has been very good indeed, but until a good scaffolding of larger canes are in place, I don't think I'm going to see the plant covered in flowers all at once. Instead, I have had to content myself with nearly continuous flowers, but only a few at a time. That is NOT a complaint.

Reply #3 of 7 posted 8 JUN 17 by mamabotanica

How did she do in hot zone 10 summer? And how big has she gotten? I'm also in zone 10 and love this rose.	REPLY

Reply #4 of 7 posted 8 JUN 17 by StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5

Even in my zone 5a with winter-kill & plus I prune CPM below my knees early spring: As own-root CPM is a giant here and occupies at least 6 feet wide space, and throw 7 feet canes in late fall. Double the dimension and you'll get the space needed for warm zone with no winter-kill.	REPLY

Reply #5 of 7 posted 8 JUN 17 by StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5

I also grow Lady of Shalott (on sale for $12 this June-week at Roses Unlimited). Lady of Shalott occupies much less space than CPM. CPM tends to fade to light yellow in hot sun, but Lady of Shalott retains its intense copper-orange, even in hot weather. Carding Mill is even smaller & compact as own-root, and it has this glorious copper/pink hue. Carding Mill is the most suitable for hot & dry weather, Lady of Shalott needs tons of rain to bloom well. My Carding Mill is like a mini-rose, 1 ' x 1' as own-root, so it will be 2' x 2' for hot climate as own-root.

Reply #6 of 7 posted 8 JUN 17 by mamabotanica

I have carding mill. Got it as a 5 gallon from a local nursery, planted less than a month ago and it's already 2 x 2. I think it's going to get bigger here. I bought Lady of Shalott for my moms house (20 minutes away). Still hasn't flowered when my bare roots have been flowering for months. I bet it's not getting enough water. I'll let her know! It looks like I'm getting six roses from Roses unlimited.
Barbra Streisand (didn't even want a purple flowered rose but found a spot where I absolutely NEED her! :)
Bronze Star
Folklore
Versigny
Voodoo
Medallion
Most I already had on my list but I'm going to have to figure out where to squeeze in Versigny and Bronze star.
Thanks for the tip!

Reply #7 of 7 posted 8 JUN 17 by StrawChicago heavy clay zone 5

Lady of Shalott gave me hell as 1st-year-own root, I kept moving it around 3 times since it failed to flower in the best potting soil & tons of acidic rain. It has those skinny & tiny leaves (typical of multiflora). That rose needs LOAMY and loose soil & SOLUBLE fertilizer, high in potassium & calcium, NPK 8-20-40, plus soluble gypsum. Lady of Shalott doesn't liked dense heavy clay, nor dense & wet peat moss in potting soil. Multiflora is a hairy cluster root, and can't handle dense soil like the woody-stick of Dr.Huey rootstock.

Second year Lady of Shalott finally produce buds, after I fed it well with MG-fertilizer, plus extra sulfate of potash & gypsum to pump out blooms. We are in a dry spell, 3 weeks of no rain, but it's pumping out blooms.

Congratulations on your choices. Versigny and Bronze star are best in pots (with Moisture-control-potting soil ... both are waterhogs and need a huge amount of SOLUBLE fertilizer to pump out the many petals in Versigny, and the large 7 inch. bloom of Bronze Star. Both will remain small as own-root as long as you keep NPK 8-20-40 to force it to bloom. I give NPK 20-20-20 for pots until they are big enough (like Miracid), then I switch to NPK 8-20-40 to control the size and to force more blooms. Gypsum (calcium sulfate) is given weekly to de-salt the salty chemicals, calcium is necessary to form leaves, stem, and flowers.