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most recent 1 OCT 22 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 1 OCT 22 by Helen B
The parentage of St.Ethelburga is listed as Comte de Chambord x Aloha in the breeders own book "Peter Beales a Passion for Roses" first published 2004.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 1 OCT 22 by HMF Admin
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Both of these names apply to multiple roses: are more specific details provided ?
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most recent 29 AUG 18 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 25 FEB 04 by Anonymous-797
This is a really nice dark red rose. Great rebloom factor.
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 1 DEC 06 by Unregistered Guest
How much light and water does it need? What can it be used for? What does it attrackt?
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 1 FEB 07 by Helen B
Pretty drought tolerant, prefers warmth - but too much sun can burn the almost black blooms. Constant bloomer, exotic scent, sets hips if you need it to - Much neglected in England, but i love him - a star performer in garden or greenhouse - may get blackspot, but tough as old boots.
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 28 AUG 18 by Andrew from Dolton
Hopefully not so neglected, I just ordered one today.
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 29 AUG 18 by Margaret Furness
See comments about Nigrette under Louis XIV.
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most recent 7 AUG 15 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 29 DEC 09 by Helen B
I was meaning to order Lochinvar this year from David Austin - only to find it has disappeared from his catalogue as if it had never existed. Was it a figment of my imagination, was it terribly unpopular - can anyone tell me why?
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Reply #1 of 8 posted 15 JUL 12 by HonzaPM
DA info - it´s hard to produce new plants (the stems mades only a few new buds to be used to get a new plant) - it was out of stock for a few years...
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Reply #2 of 8 posted 1 AUG 15 by Jukka K
In my opinion they should start propagating and offering some roses, including this one, rugosa hybrids and others that are vigorous enough, on own roots. As a spinosissima hybrid, Lochinvar may be difficult to root, though. But a large business like DA should be able to outsource micropropagation easily.
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Reply #3 of 8 posted 2 AUG 15 by Nastarana
How is it known that this a spinossima hybrid? I wish nurseries would release the lineages of their roses: it would be a great help to gardeners in cold and hot zones.
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Reply #4 of 8 posted 2 AUG 15 by Patricia Routley
David Austin's website (see references) intimates that it comes from a spinosissima.
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Reply #5 of 8 posted 2 AUG 15 by Nastarana
Thank you. I have not yet seen his 2015 catalogue.

I am glad to see him breeding with cold hardy roses. 'Lochinvar' is quite beautiful in the pictures. I hope it becomes available again in North America.
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Reply #6 of 8 posted 2 AUG 15 by Charles Quest-Ritson
David Austin has said that he will publish the parentages of all his roses in due course but he must be allowed to do so in his own time, as and when he judges that releasing details will no longer give rise to the potential for a commercial disadvantage. He is on record as saying that 'Lochinvar' has a substantial element of Rosa spinosissima its ancestry and it seems to me that it should not be too difficult for curious rosarians to think of some possible parents. More interesting for David Austin is the fact that he finds it very resistant to fungal disease – is this the experience of HMF members everywhere?
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Reply #7 of 8 posted 2 AUG 15 by Nastarana
I can understand and appreciate Mr. Austin's reasoning but I question the alleged commercial advantage to be obtained from concealing parentage, a least in the North American market. I have read any number of online reports and comments from gardeners who have given up on the Austin roses altogether after having spent too much money and time on cultivars unsuitable for their particular growing conditions.

Unfortunately, nurseries got into the habit of stocking whatever the J&P representative was pushing that year, so we had rugosas being offered in CA and tender HTs in Maine, and English Roses offered all over the country no matter what the climate.
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Reply #8 of 8 posted 7 AUG 15 by Charles Quest-Ritson
I have been in touch with Michael Marriott at David Austin Roses. He makes the point that parentages are not a reliable guide to hardiness, but he will respond more fully to your concerns in due course. He says that his firm is very keen to share its experiences of hardiness with its customers and confirms that it has test grounds in both California and upstate New York.

We find in Europe that winter hardiness can vary over quite a small area – this is a problem, in particular, in Scandinavia. I imagine that this is also true within the individual states and territories of the US.

May I add a personal note? I have noticed that many roses bred for hardiness in North America (I am thinking of the Morden, Explorer, Buck & Bugnet culitvars) are bigger, healthier and better in every way in warm climates. I have never seen such flourishing rugosas as can be found in the gardens around Los Angeles.
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most recent 15 JUL 13 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 15 OCT 08 by Helen B
A good strong grower in North West England. Grows on poor soil, battered by winds, yet is very bushy, disease resistant and vigorous - 4'x4' here, so probably large in warmer climates.
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Reply #1 of 1 posted 15 JUL 13 by HMF Admin
Very kind of you to take the time to share your experience with us. Thank you.
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