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RoseJohann Strauss ® most recent 12 MAR 18 SHOW ALL

Initial post 10 FEB 06 by david*dahlia

This rose is one of the healthiest roses in garden, even when it was a no spray one for 9 months last year. Blackspot resistance matches Old Blush (to me, it seems even better!).	REPLY

Reply #1 of 2 posted 13 OCT 06 by waoneal

Reply #2 of 2 posted 12 MAR 18 by marcelina65

yes it is very mild but my favorite rose in my garden	REPLY

RoseThe Generous Gardener most recent 17 AUG 08 SHOW ALL

Initial post 11 FEB 06 by david*dahlia

Reply #1 of 7 posted 1 MAR 06 by Unregistered Guest

i actually ordered this rose in 2005 when it was introduced in the american catalog, but my plant was labelled wrong =(
i was so looking forward to this rose too. my plant was tagged as generous gardener, but when it bloomed, it was actually heritage. when i called to get a replacement, it turns out that they had made a mistake with many of the grafts and so "the generous gardener" would not be available this season. very unfortunate, so i got carding mill instead. hope that answers your question!

Reply #2 of 7 posted 5 APR 06 by david*dahlia

Reply #3 of 7 posted 6 APR 06 by HMF supporting member

Kim Rupert

Thank you for sharing your information! Without first hand experience with situations like this, who could give a suitable answer? Problems like this occur with growers frequently. Back in the 1980s, Armstrong Roses registered several mauve Hybrid Teas, which I expectantly waited to see introduced. All three were Armstrong exclusives. It took several years for them to make it to market. The "official" reason given was a field mistake had been made. The wrong field was plowed under, destroying many of the new plants instead of those intended for destruction. From the looks of the few that made it to market, I could believe it. I guess I should have expected the varieties would turn out to be disappointing. Not one of the three were really any good, but with names like Plum Crazy, Quicksilver and Silverado, I had to hope!

Reply #4 of 7 posted 26 JUN 06 by Unregistered Guest

There is definitely something mysterious about this Generous Gardener. ;-)

I ordered one from a German nursery in Spring 05, and was very happy with this rose. Sometimes I wondered why the colour was so different from the Austin photo, but only recently I discovered that I haven't got the GG, but the Scepter'd Isle (excellent rose, btw). And it seems I'm not the only one who got an Isle for a Gardener (and not being aware), so it is not easy to find photos of the "real one" except for the official Austin photos. Of the 5 photos here at HMF I removed my 2 Scepter'd Isle and of the remaining three I think only two are GGs.

Renate

Reply #5 of 7 posted 5 DEC 07 by jude the obscure

I'm not sure why some of the posts on this board just disappear. I posted about the Generous Gardener a year ago.
The rose was introduced in 2005 or 06 in the American catalog. I ordered it but I received Heritage instead. When I contacted DA to correct the problem, they were unable to ship me a new GG for the next year. It turns out that they had incorrectly grafted a bunch of the GG's and so the rose would be unavailable the next season. That was also the reason so many of us received "pink" generous gardeners. I'm fairly sure my "GG" rose is Heritage - due to the scent, petal formation and thornless canes.

I ended up ordering GG as an own root from chamblees, but will probably be ordering another one from DA this season assuming they've fixed the mix up.

It also looks like many of the images in the photo section are indeed not GG.

Reply #7 of 7 posted 17 AUG 08 by Unregistered Guest

correction: looks like the incorrectly grafted rose as "queen of sweden", not Heritage as I previously thought. I ordered "Queen of sweden" this year and the flowers match my incorrect Generous Gradener	REPLY

RoseWhite Eden ™ most recent 21 AUG 06 SHOW ALL

Initial post 8 FEB 06 by david*dahlia

Is the only difference between this and 'Cl. Eden' color? The description at the nursery, gardenvalley.com, says that this rose has 100-petaled blooms and is creamy white edged a slight pink at times. I'd love to know more about this rose.	REPLY

Reply #1 of 2 posted 14 FEB 06 by HMF supporting member

The Old Rosarian

Eden 88 and White Eden grow the same way like a tall shrub. Eden 88 has large cupped flowers that are a creamy white and the petals are edged in rose red. White Eden isn't as cupped and although it is white, in some climates or weather conditions will have a pink center to the blooms.	REPLY

Reply #2 of 2 posted 21 AUG 06 by Anonymous-797

White Eden is named Palais Royal from its origin country France, meaning Royal Palace. It has indeed about 100 petals, and it is very vigorous and nearly never without flowers in summer. It is very disease resistance. If it is kept in cool and non direct location, a tinge of pastel pink will be seen for the first 3 days of the flowers.	REPLY

RoseAbraham Darby most recent 15 APR 06 SHOW ALL

Initial post 18 JUN 04 by hakan

Hi Rose Lowers, I have planted "Abraham Darby" for the first time. Actually that was the first time I planted a rose. My question is the canes are so weak that do not bear the roses. What is the best way to solve this problem.	REPLY

Reply #1 of 3 posted 8 JUL 04 by Gabriela P

Hi Hakan, Yes, you are right this rose needs support, at least in the begining. i simply used a stick and tide some branches..... My rose is younger then 1 year so i don't know what's going to happen later on.. :) hopefully is going to be a great bush how doesn't need much support. :)	REPLY

Reply #2 of 3 posted 11 MAY 05 by Gabriela

almost 1 year later... Fort Myers, Florida, zone 10 a .... they say Austin roses and not good for Florida because they get black spots very easy. It is true, but they forget to mention how fast this roses are growing and how easy they come back. They love to grow and grow ... and bloom. With minumum care they are doing great, even in Florida. I have few english roses and they are all doing great. I'm very happy with them, Abraham D is one of the best.

Reply #3 of 3 posted 15 APR 06 by david*dahlia

I'm in Plant City, Florida 9 a/b and I second the will to live of this particular Austin rose (not enough experience with other Austins, yet). My experience is to not let this rose be exposed to our hot afternoon sun... scorchies! And in the height of summer, sometimes the buds will get roasted before they get a chance to open.
The worst thing about the rose is that the bugs love it as much as we do. If you aren't willing to spray, it will get quite disgusting: about every bug that rose books say can be a problem will be a problem. I had never seen japanese beetles or cane borers (disgusting!) until I had A.D. for about a year. But Abe is undaunted and looks as healthy as my Old Blush despite the attacks!