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Weatherly (1927-2012), Lilia Margaret
Discussion id : 133-304
most recent 14 JUN 22 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 14 JUN 22 by Patricia Routley
For those who are interested in lilia Weatherly and her roses, in particular ‘Rod Beechey’, i have added more material to Lilia Weatherly’s page.
The dates of her bred/sported roses may not be exact.
I have just skimmed through my file of correspondence with Lilia and she wrote to me that she kept excellent records. Does anybody know if these records are still in existence?
I can do no more than later add anything of value from Lilia’s correspondence, but other people may like to to mine other sources such as:
Plant Variety Rights records
Australian Rose Breeders of Australia
Finding Dr. Rod Beechey to ask if Lilia mentioned the parentage of ‘Rod Beechey’ to him.
Chez Vibert members who may recall Lilia’s contributions on R. gigantea
HelpMeFind members who may recall anything of value.
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Discussion id : 133-287
most recent 13 JUN 22 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 13 JUN 22 by Patricia Routley
Because I don’t know about Lilia Weatherly’s seedlings, i will place references here in her file as I come across them

1990 Heritage Roses in Australia 12-1-21
As for Lady Hillingdon been sterile, it is not so for I have two seedlings germinated recently. The flowers were open pollinated, probably self pollinated.
I have several seedlings of Penelope, also triploid and I am trying to set seed of Penelope x Lady Hillingdon. Penelope sets more hips than Lady Hillingdon). It is too early to tell whether I have been successful or not but I can’t see why 21 × 21 wouldn’t work.

I believe my seedling are true to the labels I have on them, so I was amazed to see a very wild looking seedling indeed, labelled as a seedling of Climbing Ophelia. It looks rather like R. Pimpernellifolia in Les Roses. No flowers in two summers so it looks as though I will have to wait another year to see what I have got.

1990 Heritage Roses in Australia 12-4-2
Margaret Bushby. The final attraction for all these rose lovers who had already had such an enjoyable tour, was the conservatory filled with many rose seedlings grown by Lilia. The blooms were varied, charming and some were unusual, A great eye-opener for those who have never seen seedling roses.

1990 Heritage Roses in Australia 12-4-21
[List of triploid roses in Australia]
I now have a creamy white flowered seedling of Lady Hillingdon which looks just like it’s parent.

1994 Heritage Roses in Australia 16-4-17
The bright side is that I have some seedlings with a Victorian nurseryman which are being assessed for sale. I am about to protect my second rose with PVR (Plant Variety Rights – Ed.) and others may prove worth it too. Others may not be worth anything commercially but certainly are giving me pleasure.

1996 Heritage Roses in Australia 18-3-28
When I first started growing rose seedlings in 1988 I did not know that Lady Hillingdon was triploid. It was only after I had raised several seedlings from her that I read various articles, several from Dr A. S. Thomas, telling me that triploids are sterile and Lady Hillingdon in particular, would produce no progeny! I rang an eminent botanist at the University of Tasmania who assured me that I had made history. He did not believe a word I had said. (He later told me to stay away from sports as they were no good either!) If only I had known about triploids, I would not have wasted my time on all the seedlings I have raised from Penelope and all the other triploids I have used as parents! I have lots of very beautiful seedlings of Penelope. She sets seeds with abandon and so do her seedlings.

Autumn Delight (Bentall 1933) Looks to me to be a likely seedling of Penelope although no parentage is given and no ploidy either.

Roseraie de l’ Hay (14 chromosomes) Has set only two hips in my garden in 12 years. The seeds have germinated fairly freely but the seedlings have almost all been susceptible to mildew. I have a new one up, which is so far surviving. I keep the seeds for several years and many germinate after two years or more.

Nancy Hayward always looks as though she is going to produce lots of hips but they have no seeds inside and after a time they fall. What a wasted effort. The exception to this has been one hip containing one seed which has not germinated so far.

1998;Heritage Roses in Australia 20-4-59
Diana Ward: On September 4, 1998 our Life Member of Heritage Roses Australia Lilia Weatherly was honoured at Claremont when a plaque at the rose beds at the corner of Box Hill and Main Roads was officially unveiled by Glenorchy Mayor Terry Martin, who was ably assisted by Ben Swane if Swane’s Rose Nursery of NSW. Lilia has contributed to the rose world with the new rose varieties she has discovered including the Pink Iceberg, Brilliant Pink Iceberg and the variety she bred Light Touch. About 120 of the varieties of her roses are to be planted around the Claremont commercial area, both in beds and pots by local businesses which have each bought two rosebushes to beautify the area.

Excerpts from correspondence between Lilia Weatherly and Patricia Routley
<2003 "Dr. Thomas kept saying LH was sterile but I have had several seedlings most of which have come to a bad end through neglect. I still have a very double white flowered one. Several of the others were yellow. Some have yet to flower. Did you know she was the lady who said "Lie back and think of England"? Perhaps this has affected her attitudes to fertility!" Lilia, Mar 26, 2003.

2003. "I have a dwarf seedling from it [R. Gigantea ex Honeysuckle] and seedlings from that" Lilia, April 7, 2003.
<2003. "I have several nice R. gigantea hybrid seedlings - two are flowering now in pots. Lovely new babies! Lilia, August 20, 2003.

.... R. gigantea, Collett had been grown from seed sent by Viru Viraraghaven and I marvelled that this rose from the Shan Hills of northern Burma was growing so well just north of Hobart. Patricia Nov 24, 2007

2004 "R. gigantea macrocarpa Collett - all the seedlings flowered prolifically this year. They are three years old. All are true to the parent," Lilia, Dec 3, 2007.

2004. "A lot of my seedlings have got R. gigantea or Golden Vision in them. Lilia, May 14, 2004

<2005. "My four seedlings of 'Amy Johnson' are all dramatic". Lilia, Oct 18, 2005

<2007 A tiny flowered blue-ish multiflora rose (a seedling?) reminded me of ‘Rose Marie Viaud’. Patricia Nov 24, 2007.
"If the bluish double multiflora seeding was in the Pink Iceberg bed it was 'Elaine Frawly' named after a famous Tasmanian sprinter now living in Victoria. If it was the single mauve one near the Sparrieshoop seedling it is a Baby Faurax seedling. It is rather attractive and I may use it because of its colour" Lilia, Dec 3, 2007

<2007 "We were shown a new rose which had an unknown (or was it unnamed) HT as the seed parent and Golden Vision as the pollen parent. It looked lovely and its picture was used on the back cover of a brochure Lilia kindly gave us about her garden." Patricia's unpublished report of a visit to Lilia's garden by a David Ruston led group on Nov 24, 2007.
"Unnamed HT. It is too early to declare its antecedents although I know them!" Lilia, Dec 3, 2007.

<2007 There are also some “rather good” seedlings of Alister Clark’s roses, many of which are climbers due to their R. gigantea inheritance. Patricia Nov 24, 2007

<2007 . We saw several open pollinated seedlings of ‘Margaret Bushby’ in the garden. “The seedlings I got from that first generation had several similar seedlings” she said. None of them yet had names pending their performance. Patricia Nov 24, 2007

<2007 We saw a seedling rose of ‘Sparrieshoop’ which had a touch of green in it. Patricia Nov 24, 2007

<2007 Another lovely apricot pink semi-double seedling in the small bed looking like a loose, pale pink ‘Nancy Hayward’ but as yet unnamed and so far, just a “string of numbers”. Patricia Nov 24, 2007

<2007 More seedlings of the hybrid Musk Penelope were here. Patricia Nov 24, 2007

<2007 A seedling of “Agnes Smith” is right alongside “Agnes Smith” and looked like a noisette with perhaps a smaller Devoniensis flower. Patricia Nov 24, 2007

<2007 And another seedling from ‘Perle d’Or’ Patricia Nov 24, 2007
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Discussion id : 21-447
most recent 27 SEP 07 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 17 SEP 07 by Simon Voorwinde
Hi Lilia,

Are you aware of any Rose Societies or Rose Hybridisers Associations in Tasmania?

Kind Regards,

Simon Voorwinde
s.a.voorwinde@bigpond.com
Forth, Tasmania
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Reply #1 of 5 posted 18 SEP 07 by Unregistered Guest
Greetings.

I am the state representative for ARBA -Australian Rose Breeders Association. We have only four members in the state. If you wish to join you could send your fees of $20 to Australian Rose Breeders Association Inc. Treasurer is RJ (Bob) Gregory, PO Box 88, Modbury North,
There is no longer a Rose Society Branch in Tasmania so people belong to the Victorian Branch or the South Australain Branch. Another alternative is to join Heritage Roses in Australia Inc. Wendy Langton is in Latrobe, I think. I will be happy to help. Lilia
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Reply #2 of 5 posted 18 SEP 07 by Unregistered Guest
Greetings. I am the state representative for ARBA. You can join by sending $20 to The treasurer, Bob Gregory, PO Box 88, Modbury North, SA 5092. We have only 4 members in Tas. Heritage Roses in Australia Inc has a Northern branch whose coordinator if Wendy Langton in Latrobe. There is no longer a branch of the National Rose Society in Tas and some people belong to the Victorian Branch and others the South Australian branch.

I will be happy to help in any way and you could contact me directly,

Lilia
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Reply #3 of 5 posted 21 SEP 07 by Unregistered Guest
Hi Lilia,

Thanks for responding. How can I contact you directly (you can email me at the address shown in the initial post)? I am new to Tasmania but am getting into roses again after a few years overseas. I am raising my own seedlings from OP hips and plan to start more organised crosses this year when things start to flower down here.

Regards,

Simon
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Reply #4 of 5 posted 21 SEP 07 by RoseBlush
To contact Lilia directly, click on the link for her name above her post. That will take you to her breeer page. Click on the BREEDER/HYBRIDIZER tab and drop down the page and you will see a button where you can email her directly.

Smiles,
Lyn
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Reply #5 of 5 posted 27 SEP 07 by Simon Voorwinde
Hi Lilia,

This is the American Rose Hybridisers Association forum that I am a part of:

http://www.rosehybridizers.org/forum/index.php

Thought you might find it interesting.

Kind Regards,

Simon
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