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Initial post 26 APR 22 by Peter Egeto
Just found a noID rose on the island of Kos, Greece, in the front yard of a building. Looks like an old tea/tea-noisette rose.
In some FB groups tried to identify the cultivar as the owners have no idea, must have been there for decades, some friends suggested it very much could be Isabelle Nabonnand or Souvenir de Gilbert Nabonnand...
For the growing habit (it is more than 2 meters/6-7 feet tall, no thorns, dark attractive foliage with purple young shoots), and the powdery mildew magnet behaviour (mediterranean island climate, rainy winter then dry hot summer months but surrounded by sea sea sea) i think of the latter (Gilbert), but maybe some of you can help more.
It's much more on the apricot-orange side than Clementina Carbonieri, i could only detect a slight scent, and it was more of a sour, strange scent, not really rose-type. But it can be different other times.

Having a hard time uploading photos.. The multiple upload function doesn't really work but sorted.
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Reply #1 of 3 posted 27 APR 22 by Jay-Jay
Maybe take a look at Isabelle Nabonnand... (also on Pinterest)
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Reply #2 of 3 posted 27 APR 22 by Peter Egeto
Oh yes thank you, it's most probably Souvenir de Gilbert Nabonnand as for the height and the copper tones (and as most of Isabelle Nabonnand's photos are actually Gilbert Nabonnand), i'm trying to get cutting in these following weeks
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Reply #3 of 3 posted 27 APR 22 by Margaret Furness
www dot heritageroses dot org dot au/articles/rose-propagation-ziplock-bag-technique/ may be useful to you, as a way of growing cuttings in warm weather. It's based on Mike Shoup's technique. The months suggested are for Australia, so you'll need to adapt that.
A more ecologically-friendly version would be to put the cuttings into forestry tubes in a clear plastic box.
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