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Souvenir d'Alphonse Lavallée  rose photo courtesy of member Margaret Furness
Discussion id : 19-581
most recent 22 MAR 18 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 16 JUN 07 by Niels Plougmann
So rare and nice to see the real SDAL!!! Almost all other roses sold as SDAL are Erinnerung an Brod. It took me years to find the real rose. Where did you get yours from?
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Reply #1 of 7 posted 16 JUN 07 by Margaret Furness
It's in the biggest rose collection in Australia, Ruston's nursery at Renmark. I don't know where it came from, but will ask David when I go to the nursery for a working bee in July.
Ennering an Brod isn't available in Australia as far as I know, but I've seen it in New Zealand.
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Reply #2 of 7 posted 17 JUN 07 by Margaret Furness
Sorry about the spelling error.
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Reply #3 of 7 posted 17 JUN 07 by Niels Plougmann
I look forward hearing about where this nursery got their budwood from. I am trying to track down the origin of the original SDAL, which you obviously also are the ovner of. Your rose is the same as the one pictured in Botanicas roses. Which is the real SDAL. I got 3 Erinnerung an Brods before I found the real thing. Did you also Notice among the other pictures here on HMF that some are Erinnerung an Brod? It really confuses other users to be shown the wrong rose, by those who bought Erinnerung an Brod. But of course they think they got the right rose, since it was labeled SDAL.
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Reply #4 of 7 posted 25 JUN 07 by Margaret Furness
I wouldn't be surprised if the SDAL in Botanica was the same plant as I photographed - I know that James Young contributed photos to Botanica's Roses, and he has done a lot of photography at Ruston's.
If you want to be confused by wrong identifications, have a look at Tea roses! Mme Lambard, for example, is sold under at least 5 different names in Australia.
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Reply #5 of 7 posted 29 JUN 07 by Niels Plougmann
Really interesting information! I hope David will be able to tell where they got the plant from!
And yes I have seen rosariums like Sangerhausen growing the same rose under 4 different names!!! This of course makes it easy to claim you have more than 12000 different roses in the collection.
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Reply #6 of 7 posted 9 JUL 07 by Margaret Furness
Unfortunately David doesn't have a record of where his plant came from.
Margaret
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Reply #7 of 7 posted 22 MAR 18 by Margaret Furness
This plant was in the block of roses recently demolished in favour of a commercial planting.
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