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27 OCT 07 by
 jedmar
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Your picture of Mme Falcot looks like the real thing. Can you tell us where you have taken the picture and if the rose is in your garden, what is the provenance? Thank you.
jedmar
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There's some confusion about this (old, and very rare) variety in Europe.
I know she's included in 3 catalogs here. Only one nursery have the right 'Mme Falcot', the others are selling a sort of 'Safrano' under this name. Lucky to have bought mine in the right place :o), at "Walter Branchi - Le Rose", a Rose Nursery specialized in french roses, Teas, Chinas and Noisette, with a very large selection, and many uncommon varieties. Unfortunately the nursery it's closing, and a big part of the collection was lost, or it will be.
The photo was taken in my garden ("La Pietra Rossa", in Sardinia - Italy) one year ago, in october. Spring and summer flowers have much more pink and yellow tones. She's in flower until december and now the colour is an ivory white, lightly edged pink. Petals are thick and buds pointed, but the open flower richly petalled, in quarters. Foliage is large, strongly purple when young, the plant (3 years old) is now 1,5 m high, growing in light granitic soil.
I'll try to add some summer pics of this beautiful Rose as soon as possible!
Ciao,
Maurizio
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5 NOV 07 by
jedmar
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Yes, unfortunately the confusion is not only with Mme Falcot, but with many other "known" roses. The old engraving I have posted for Mme Falcot and the older references show that we have to be looking for yellow tones in the real one. Too much pink probably means a different rose.
It is a tragedy with Branchi. I went to Baschi and got a number of teas, but I did not see any mother plants there. Do you have an ides what happened to them?
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I've just added one more picture of the same plant, taken in august 2006. Flowers during heat are yellowish in bud, but the colour change quickly to pink tones, like 'Gloire de Dijon' or 'Jaune Desprez'. Here, aTea Rose can look quite different day by day.
I see in references that this variety is described to be a slightly double, strongly coloured version of 'Safrano'. Mine is definitely full petalled.
I don't know what happens to Branchi's nursery. I know that he have lost his interest in Roses, to return at his first passion, music. Mother plants where planted at Corbara, in a garden near the lake. But house and the garden have been sold, and nobody seems to know nothing about the Rose collection. I just hope that she doesn't be lost. The rose list of varieties availables at the nursery (that always exists), is shorter year after year...
Maurizio
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Hi Maurizio
Thanks for the great photos.
Would you have any additional photos of the foliage and any showing the colour of the new growth?
If you have photos of prickles and the buds, it would be useful to see the prickles, to check the shape of the receptacle and to check whether the pedicel is smooth or glandular/bristly.
Does your 'Mme Falcot' set hips?
Billy
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Hi Billy.
I'm going to add a picture of a young shoot of this rose, to show his beautiful purple colour, and I will take some picture on plant's details next week. I can say to you that prickles are few, but large and dark, as in 'Safrano'. The pedicel is smooth. I don't know if she set hips, I always deadhead my Tea Roses, but I think yes... why not? :o)
Ciao,
Maurizio
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