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13 MAR 21 by
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Hopper didn't seem worried about the wasps, and wasps didn't seem to want to eat hopper, so I assume they get on ok.
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#2 of 19 posted
13 MAR 21 by
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In my opinion Hugo still isn't one of the great Teas. It's quite nice, and the total lack of thorns is a bonus, but the bloom colours do seem very sensitive to UV levels at my latitude, and the bloom form tends go a bit scruffy quite quickly. Rosette Delizy does a similar colour scheme, but will do it gracefully in full sun, and with better bloom form over time. RD has thorns though, but they're not over the top. It's still fairly easy to work with.
If you only have room for one, and want to plant it in full sun, I'd definitely go for RD instead. If you want something thornless for a morning sun or semi-shaded spot, HR could do nicely. Although with you being in Tassie, HR might handle more sun. I notice on WillyWeather that UV levels are peaking around 7 in Hobart recently, whereas here in NE NSW they're still peaking around 11.
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#4 of 19 posted
13 MAR 21 by
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Yes I know it's a good photo, and I'm happy to take the compliment. I was just warning you about HR's quirks after you said you were tempted to get one. ;)
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#6 of 19 posted
13 MAR 21 by
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I'm tempted to change my handle to Octavus Weld (sometimes supremely elegant, sometimes looks like a disheveled parrot).
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#8 of 19 posted
13 MAR 21 by
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The Tea ladies say that all roses given to them as Penelope Tea are identical with Hugo Roller. I did better than that (I got Mrs Dudley Cross and another one I've forgotten as Penelope). But you don't say that to Queenslanders.
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#10 of 19 posted
13 MAR 21 by
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Hugo Roller in commerce is correct ... even if one lady did give it to the Tea ladies as Yugerola.
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#12 of 19 posted
13 MAR 21 by
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I once addressed Billy as "Teabag of Great Eminence". Fortunately I wasn't in the same room at the time, or the consequences may have been dire. :)
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I'm wondering if people growing and photographing things under different lighting conditions (latitude, soil, distance from coast, time of year, etc, etc) has a lot to do with them thinking a particular rose is something else. Hugo being a case in point. I know its blooms are highly sensitive to sunlight, so it follows that it will look different in Qld than it does in Tassie when otherwise under similar conditions.
When checking reference shots on HMF I always try to find ones that are near to my latitude and climate, so I can get a better idea of how it will look at my place. I automatically ignore any photos I think look suspicious for saturation, channel balance, focus, etc. Frankly there seem to be quite a few shots that have been posted apparently just because someone wants to post a photo of something, without taking into account whether what is on the screen is a truly accurate or useful representation of the subject specimen. My 2c: if a shot doesn't look exactly like what I'm seeing in the garden, I either correct it in Photoshop or throw it out. Most get thrown out. Also, I've found it's best to upload at 100% jpg quality, which I normally wouldn't do for use online. HMF reprocesses the images to a lower quality anyway*, so it makes sense to start with the most detailed image to reduce artifacts after reprocessing.
*Standard web practice, not a criticism.
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#15 of 19 posted
14 MAR 21 by
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The other things with that are a/ colours in old pictures are notoriously inaccurate anyway, for several reasons, and b/ the words people used to describe a particular colour 100 or 200 years ago may not be the same words we would naturally use now.
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And 19th century writers who employed gardeners to do the down-and-dirty stuff didn't often bother to comment on how prickly a rose was.
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#18 of 19 posted
17 MAR 21 by
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I can easily do another good one for the official Yugerola page. ;) It's looking pretty good at the moment. More blooms out now, and still keeping a pleasing colour range.
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