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'Édouard Manet' rose Reviews & Comments
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Discussion id : 117-378
most recent 11 SEP SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 1 JUL 19 by observer
In Europe this rose is sold as "Julie Andrieu".
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Reply #1 of 9 posted 2 JUL 19 by Patricia Routley
HelpMeFind shows:
‘Edouard Manet’ as a floribunda/shrub with a height of 185cm.
‘Julie Andrieu’ as a climber with a height of 200cm. So they are nearly the same height.
Does anybody know if ‘Julie Andrieu’ won any awards?
Observer - thank you for your comment. Do you have proof that they are the same rose?
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Reply #2 of 9 posted 2 JUL 19 by observer
As I understood Delbard roses are popular in the East. Each time, when I was looking for information about a new Delbard rose, I mostly found it at eastern websites. It was very strange that "Julie Andrieu" rose is not grown there. I found a similar rose at delbard-japon.com website and noticed the "Julie Andrieu" rose plant in the gallery.

This is "Julie Andrieu": https://www.georgesdelbard.com/pub/catalog/inspiration_jardin/jardin_des_sens/fleurs_a_bouquets/rosier_grimpant_julie_andrieu_3.jpg

This is "Edouard Manet": http://www.delbard-japon.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2018/03/Edouard_Manet_2016_008.jpg
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Reply #3 of 9 posted 2 JUL 19 by observer
Besides, there is a small farm in Thailand, which sells this rose. They announce it as "Julie Andrieu or Edouard Manet": https://www.facebook.com/Rose.in.love.0847788484/posts/2028123770845469/
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Reply #4 of 9 posted 3 JUL 19 by Patricia Routley
Thank you observer.
Without further proof, I am unable to merge the 2007 ‘Edouard Manet’ with the 2016 Julie Andrieu DELstriocrem. I believe there were quite a few similar striped roses. We need either a code name for ‘Edouard Manet’, or evidence that ‘Julie Andrieu’ won awards in Rome in 2014 and Gifu in 2017. For the moment I have added a Note in both files.
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Reply #5 of 9 posted 6 JUL 20 by Ericchn
Hello, please note that “Julie Andrieu” & “Édouard Manet” have the exactly fragrance analysis (the fragrance triangle) on their respective official page:

https://www.georgesdelbard.com/product/rosier-grimpant-julie-andrieu

http://www.delbard-japon.com/2018/03/05/397/

Both pages indicate that the fragrance is composed of rose, red fruits & yellow fruits, moss.

Since the two have exactly the same fragrance, very similar look and other characteristics, I believe they are the same rose.
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Reply #6 of 9 posted 6 JUL 20 by jedmar
Just to confuse matters a little more: it seems Delstrirocrem = 'Julie Andrieu' is sold in the UK as 'Climbing Claude Monet'

https://www.thefragrantrosecompany.co.uk/claude-monet-climber-climbing-rose.html

which means it is a sport of the floribunda 'Claude Monet', of which there is a 1992 and a 2012 variant
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Reply #7 of 9 posted 11 SEP by Ericchn
Not necessarily, it could be just a way of marketing a new variety using the name of a better known one.
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Reply #8 of 9 posted 11 SEP by Ericchn
Finally there’s proof that it’s the same rose:

shop.takii.co.jp/products/detail/NBX072

Registration for Japanese PBR: www.hinshu2.maff.go.jp/vips/cmm/apCMM112.aspx?TOUROKU_NO=28498&LANGUAGE=Japanese
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Reply #9 of 9 posted 11 SEP by jedmar
Listings merged, thank you!
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Discussion id : 112-407
most recent 24 JUL 18 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 24 JUL 18 by Emi
This rose is quite fragrant!
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