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"La Isla Bonita rose Reviews & Comments
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Hoping it may help in identifing the ranunculs shaped Hybrid Chinas found around the world. Apparently Hardy hybridized at least three roses of this kind: Du Luxembourg, Renoncule violette, Renoncule brune.
The Old Rose Informant by Brent Dickerson, 2000
‘Du Luxembourg’ (Hardy, 1820 or before). We see many roses from Hardy proclaiming their place of origin, the Luxembourg Palace in Paris. This Hybrid China was described by Noisette as “Flowers pretty, very double, having the form of Ranunculus, petals in a spiral, of a charming violet color.” Prévost fils adds, “Ovary glabrous, short, oval-pyriform. Flower small, full, regular, purple red with edges brown-purple or deep violet.” Hardy was to release what were presumably improvements on this Ranunculus-shaped hybrid a few years later, a ‘Renoncule Violette’ in 1824, and a ‘Renoncule Brune’ by 1828 - both Hybrid Chinas again.
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When I saw that "La Isla Bonita" was found in the Canary Islands, I was hoping for a match with "Canary Island" Rose, a heat-tolerant found rose in the U.S. that supposedly made its way to Texas from the Canary Islands. (there is a reference to "Canary Island Rose" in William Welch's 'Antique Roses for the South', but I don't have the book).
I don't think it is the same rose though; what do you think?
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.935.0
Love the photos of "La Isla Bonita" and "Samos Rose", and I agree that they look very similar.
Virginia
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#1 of 3 posted
8 DEC 15 by
Hortus
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Between ´ la Isla Bonita´ and "Canary Island" rose are certainly similarities , but there are also differences:
-The flowers of "Canary Island" rose seem relaxed and are usually individually.
-The sepals are short at "Canary Island" rose, who very often have "La Isla Bonita"
leaf-shaped appendages.
-The leaves of the "Canary Island" rose tend towards the Gallica group, are thus wider than that of "La Isla Bonita" which certainly belongs to the China hybrid.
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Yes, I agree that they are not enough alike for the differences to be explained just by different climates (the photos of "Canary Island" were taken in New York, so I would expect a few minor differences if they were the same rose). But the leaves, the sepals and the blooms are different enough that I don't think they are the same.
It would have been cool, though, for the rose that supposedly came to the U.S. from the Canaries to have a matching, ancestral rose still growing somewhere in the islands. Maybe it does, but I agree that it probably isn't this one.
Thanks,
Virginia
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I will comment further in 'Canary Island'.
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26 JUN 15 by
Hortus
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I have a very similar or identical rose, which I found on the Canary Island of La Palma for three years. I lead them under the name "la Isla Bonita". A 180 cm wide, stiffly upright growing shrub which flourishes here in June-July, evolved from a cuttings. It has an intense aroma. It is very resistant to fungal diseases. Also the winter hardiness can be estimated as very good. Here, she has survived winter temperatures of up to-27 ° C without wood damage. Probably it's a China hybrid.
Here are some pictures
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#1 of 4 posted
17 JUL 15 by
 Cà Berta
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To me they look identical.
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I'll add the synonym of "La Isla Bonita (La Palma, Canary Islands)" to the "Rose Found in Samos (Greece)" if that is OK with you both, Hortus and Ca Berta?
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#3 of 4 posted
17 JUL 15 by
HortusReply
#4 of 4 posted
17 JUL 15 by
Cà Berta
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I agree ..hoping to find, sooner or later, its original name!
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