HelpMeFind Roses, Clematis and Peonies
Roses, Clematis and Peonies
and everything gardening related.
DescriptionPhotosLineageAwardsReferencesMember RatingsMember CommentsMember JournalsCuttingsGardensBuy From 
'KORlawe' rose Reviews & Comments
Discussion id : 169-225
most recent 4 DEC HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 4 DEC by Michael Garhart
"Average diameter 4.75""

No...? It's essentially floribunda-sized clusters and blooms on a much larger plant. I'd say 3-3.5" personally, in Oregon.
REPLY
Reply #1 of 2 posted 4 DEC by jedmar
They are 10-12 cm in my garden. So an average of 4.25" would be correct
REPLY
Reply #2 of 2 posted 4 DEC by Michael Garhart
I could possibly accept 4.25 over 4.75, considering 4.75 is about average for an HT.

I do know Westerland, and some of its direct descendants (Spice of Life is really bad for this), fry in the direct heat when younger, much like roses such as Blue For You and Velvet Fragrance do. Which are roses that seem to rely on inflating their petals with excess water in their vacules. So that could be why they could be larger than expected in places.
REPLY
Discussion id : 128-931
most recent 3 DEC 21 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 27 AUG 21 by PepperReed
Anyone have Westerlund in Zone 5-ish (I'm in mid-MI on a sunny open hilltop with fast draining loam)? I want to plant her on the other side of our entrance gate across from Zepherine and wondered how tall she would get here and if there are any cautionary tales about her thorny-ness! I'd like to both 'match' and contrast with ZD, and Westy looks like a nice pink color match with the extra peachy yellow contrast and petal differential. Thoughts from any Westerlund owners? I'm also considering Portlandia for this purpose. Thanks!
REPLY
Reply #1 of 3 posted 9 SEP 21 by Andrew from Dolton
'Westerland' is moderately armed with largish thorns. In my garden it makes a large bush but I think it would make climber if I grew it with the protection of a warm wall. What you plant next to each other is your personal choice but IMO orange coloured 'Westerland' and vivid pink of 'Zephirine Drouhin' might clash, but they both have wonderful smells.
REPLY
Reply #2 of 3 posted 2 DEC 21 by Johno
When visiting Europe I was very surprised to find Westerland only growing to an average size shrub compared to a definite climber at home. On this basis suspect your zone is probably too cool for the rose as a climber. It is important to match your two climbers for their growth outcomes, colour is a personal choice.
REPLY
Reply #3 of 3 posted 3 DEC 21 by Palustris
I had 'Westerland' in Zone 6 for a couple of years, but it never grew out of the shrub stage and expired one cold winter.
REPLY
Discussion id : 126-330
most recent 11 MAR 21 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 11 MAR 21 by ParisRoseLady
Available from - Stargazer Perennials
www.stargazerperennials.com
REPLY
Discussion id : 120-945
most recent 14 APR 20 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 14 APR 20 by newtie
Big stiff canes . vicious thorns. Plant and stand back. A great rose in zone 8b. Very humid summers.
REPLY
Reply #1 of 1 posted 14 APR 20 by Jay-Jay
Less suitable as a climber. Best as a free standing shrub.
REPLY
© 2024 HelpMeFind.com