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'Belles Rives' rose Reviews & Comments
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13 days ago by
 Ericchn
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Should be Meiclicel : meilland.com/en/catalogue/purple-perfumella-meiclicel-meilland-jardin-parfum/
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#1 of 7 posted
13 days ago by
jedmar
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It was at Monza as Medicellie. See:
www.airosa.it/concorso/2005/concorso2005.htm
Also:
www.dreamstime.com/photos-images/rose-meicellie.html
The note for Meiclicel says:
Meilland sells MEIclicel as 'Greffe de Vie' as a garden rose, and 'Purple Perfumella' when a cut rose.
Has Meilland changed the varietal name from 2005 to 2008?
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#2 of 7 posted
13 days ago by
Ericchn
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Maybe. I shall try contacting Meilland for clarification.
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#3 of 7 posted
13 days ago by
jedmar
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Can you please also ask about 'Belles Rives'? See this info from 2017:
parfumflowercompany.com/insights/name-change-rose-greffe-de-vie-belles-rives/
We had 'Belles Rives' as a name for MEIzolnil. According to this, it is 'Greffe de Vie' (MEIclicel?)
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#4 of 7 posted
13 days ago by
Ericchn
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I know about this. The trade mark Belles Rives is used both for Meizolnil (for garden) and for Meiclicel (for cut flowers). Similar to the case of Jeanne Moreau, which is used for Meidiaphaz for the garden and Meicalanq for cut flowers.
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#5 of 7 posted
13 days ago by
jedmar
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Thank you for the clarification!
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Hi all,
Meicellie is not a varietal name of any Meilland variety. It might be (again) a mistake of a rose trial. Maybe Monza as it is the only reference to this :
www.airosa.it/concorso/2005/concorso2005.htm
For the other website as reference, it is an amateur photographer that might have taken the name in Monza. See all other pictures, he was in Italy at that time.
www.dreamstime.com/xiaoma-latest-stock-photos?pg=2
The PBR has always be only Meiclicel for this variety.
About trademarks :
GREFFE DE VIE (Grafting life) was a charity operation in France done by MEILLAND RICHARDIER with the family of Gregory Lemarchal which died of cystic fibrosis at 23 years old in April 2007.
As the operation stopped, the variety was slowly taken down from production.
But a second life in Kenya as a cut flower came to be, and they choose the trademark Purple PERFUMELLA®.
After this, in 2018, we were developing the concept of Bal Meilland with the 5* hotel Belles Rives in Antibes, France and choosing Meizolnil to be named BELLES RIVES®, we decided to rename also Meiclicel BELLES RIVES®, as the Bal Meilland was mostly an event of cut flower presentation.
yesicannes.com/fr/bal-meilland-belles-rives-la-vie-en-roses-59335
Hope it is clear
Matthias
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#7 of 7 posted
9 days ago by
jedmar
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Thank you for the clarification. Listings merged.
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