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'Gartenträume ®' rose Reviews & Comments
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It may be that Tantau used old rose ´La France´ to breed this rose. Don´t you think?
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Very unlikely :-) - Since La France to my knowledge is sterile and can not be used for hybridization. But the scent is very similar.
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#2 of 7 posted
21 APR 12 by
HonzaPM
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Niels, thank you for that information about La France and your kind comment.
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Perhaps La France has lost some of its fertility, if it won't reproduce for you? Helpmefind lists very large numbers of descendants.
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Thank you Margaret. Danish Rosarian Valdemar Petersen claimed it was sterile - but looking at the list of descendants surely contradicts this. Not that I want to use it for hybridization myself though :-)
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I think Mr. Petersen was reasonably correct.
I count only 11 first generation descendents from 'La France' 1867 using its seed:
Cannes la Coquette 1877
Danmark 1890
Mrs. W.J. Grant <1892
Principessa di Napoli (hybrid perpetual, Lodi/Bonfiglioli, 1897)
France et Russie 1899
Ober-Hofgärtner Franz Joost 1902
Mrs. Theodore Roosevelt 1903
Dr. Krüger's La France 1916
John Cook 1917
Silver Beauty 1956.
Morgenluft 1962
The other first generation descendents were using 'La France' pollen, or sports.
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Thank you for your reply Patricia - It could indicate that La France, have very low fertility - albeit not totally sterile since he and other hybridizers gave up using it. As much as I appreciate the beauty of many classes of roses - fragrance will always be an important trait I look for in a rose. Tantau have attracted some very good roses, that are both healthy and very fragrant.
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#7 of 7 posted
20 JAN by
 Eiiia
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父母本都可育，但如果不喜欢末药茴香，需要注意。低温会出现末药。发芽率挺高。
[ed. As per google translate
"Both parents are fertile, but if you don't like fennel, you need to be careful. At low temperatures, the last medicine will appear. The germination rate is quite high."]
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27 AUG 21 by
BrianH
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Available from - Chamblee
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Don't buy from Chamblee's, the current ownership is defrauding customers, there are scores of bad reviews now on this nursery. 10/7/23
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1 JUN 23
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1 JUN 23
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