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'Madame Cunisset-Carnot' rose Reviews & Comments
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carnot(madame carnot of antique emporium) doesn't match madame cunisset carnot as presumed by some of us. datasheet at the official website of the rosery of val-de-marne (france) clearly show another rose. https://collections-roseraie.valdemarne.fr/index.php?metier=varietes&action=fiche&id=1911
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Could madame carnot of antique emporium be ‘Mademoiselle Franziska Kruger’?
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#2 of 4 posted
10 JUN 20 by
kai-eric
certainly not as buds are slender and blossoms hardly filled colour being a consistent vieux-rose without any variation. for better understanding i have uploaded some new pictures of the most interesting details.
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Thank you Kai-eric. It was the photo in Carnot (tea, Laffay, 1825) that made me think of ‘Mademoiselle Franziska Kruger’.
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#4 of 4 posted
10 JUN 20 by
kai-eric
i feel my plant much closer to the references (bouton très allongé/journal des roses) of mme cunisset carnot than the plant at l'hay pictured by amiroses. on the other hand,the starry outline of its blooms makes me think of another variety: mme emilie charrin with its frizzy blossoms, the proliferation often seen on my plant being obviously caracteristic of that variety. i guess that a mixup has happened.
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Journal des Roses 1899/11/01, p.169:
Madame Cunisset-Carnot (hybride de thé). - Arbuste vigoureux, fleur moyenne, bouton très allongé, solitaire,coloris rose oeillet saumoné; bonne pour fleurs coupées. Grande médaille dàrgent.
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Thank you kai-eric. Reference added and Mme. Cussinet-Carnot now made a "hidden" name.
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does anyone have more detailled informations about madame cussinet-carnot? pictures of leaves would be helpful for comparing with other members of the 'carnot complex'.
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