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'Lamarque' rose Reviews & Comments
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Discussion id : 135-973
most recent 26 MAR 23 SHOW ALL
 
Initial post 2 JAN 23 by Carlos D Neves
The rain tolerance is zero, I've never seen a flower from mine in four years, every single one ball and rot, so shovel with it.
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Reply #1 of 7 posted 2 JAN 23 by Margaret Furness
HMF has many photos of Lamarque with plenty of flowers. I wonder if your rose was correctly identified.
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Reply #3 of 7 posted 2 JAN 23 by Carlos D Neves
Mine came from Loubert, I believe it is the correct id, for what I can see of the buds that I forced to open by unglueing petals, I have a rain season that goes from fall to early summer.
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Reply #4 of 7 posted 2 JAN 23 by Jay-Jay
Loubert's website states for this rose: Très parfumée.
HMF states a moderate lemon, tea fragrance. I tend to agree with HMF as for fragrance.
Question is: Is the Loubert rose the right-one?
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Reply #5 of 7 posted 4 JAN 23 by Carlos D Neves
Jay-Jay I'm waiting for a bud to open so I can smell it, for what I recall of the buds i unglued the petals on, it was not that fragant, then again parfum is subjective often, and it would not be the first misidentified rose in Loubert collection.
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Reply #6 of 7 posted 25 MAR 23 by Carlos D Neves
So I finally got two buds to open in a dry spell, it does have a slight lemon parfum.
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Reply #7 of 7 posted 26 MAR 23 by Jay-Jay
That would fit the description on HMF and would support my experience as for fragrance with this rose.
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Reply #2 of 7 posted 2 JAN 23 by Jay-Jay
My own root plant from John and Becky Hook (former Roseraie du Désert) behaves well and the flowers do not ball. We live in a wet climate. Other roses do ball in our garden. A combination of rain and Botrytis. The latter abundantly present, because of the fruit-trees.
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Discussion id : 112-522
most recent 3 AUG 18 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 3 AUG 18 by fawzia
Does anyone have experience of the rain tolerance of this rose? I seem to remember that it balls in the rain.
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Discussion id : 96-614
most recent 29 DEC 16 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 29 DEC 16 by Jay-Jay
Available from - Roseraie du Désert
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Discussion id : 90-113
most recent 3 JAN 16 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 3 JAN 16 by Jeri Jennings
I met Jyl and Alan Atmore, of Santa Paula, CA, in the mid 1990's, when they visited a Ventura Co. Rose Society rose show at the Ventura Co. Museum of History and Art. I was "sitting" the information table.

They told me that they had a "family" rose, which had been brought from Placerville to Ventura County in 1869. It was still growing at the family home, a "wedding cake" Victorian in Santa Paula, built by their ancestors, Richard and Ambrosia Atmore. They wondered if we could tell them what it was. I cautioned them that there were many, many roses which simply cannot be matched to a historic identity, but said that I was very interested.

The next day, they returned to the show, bringing with them a big armload of frothy lemon-white blooms.

I caught my breath, and flipped open my copy of "Landscaping With Antique Roses" (Druit/Shoup, 1992) to page 161, for a perfect match to the roses they were carrying. 'Lamarque' -- (1830).

IF ARE is still using the same clone of 'Lamarque' that they had in the 1990's, it's a very good match (at least in appearance) to the Atmore family's rose.

The REALLY good news is that the "Atmore 'Lamarque'" has been ELISA tested (late 2015; per. Dr. Manners) and is found to be free of the viruses that tests for -- the ones most-commonly afflicting U.S. roses. That fact substantiates the oral history we have for this clone of 'Lamarque'.
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