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"Winecup" rose Reviews & Comments
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One of the best shrubs I've ever grown here in Houston -- well foliated, evergreen, new foliage is red, fading to a slightly glossy dark green with a glaucus tinge, staying like that for a long time; Impervious to fungus, very thrip resistant, gets slight damage but leaves are thick so it does not affect the overall appearance of the shrub.. Mine is in some dappled afternoon shade... It puts out new dark red to purple flowers 2-3 inches across abundantly and continuously from late February to May, more slowly through high summer and again abundantly from October to Christmas. Does not look like a china or a tea much; but also it does not really look or behave like a modern hybrid. ..
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Is this rose cold hardy?
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You will probably get more helpful information if you revise your question to indicate to what zone or temperatures you want to know if it will withstand. I've grown it in Zones 9b and 10a and it was perfectly cold hardy in those conditions, so to answer your question as stated, yes, it is completely cold hardy. How cold are you wishing to grow it under?
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Supposedly I'm zone 7, but winters can be eratic. We occasiobally get a zone 5 type winter here and there.
I do know how to read the information on this page, but it's not always accurate.
I'd consider myself zone 6b.
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Thank you, that should help get you more useful information.
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Kim, could you tell me how this rose did for you in 9b? Is this really a continuous bloomer?
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The plant was completely healthy in Zone 10a Encino, CA. NO fungal diseases at all. The foliage was gorgeous and it grew vigorously. It flowered repeatedly, but any time the direct sun hit those petals, they fried like Comtesse du Cayla's and anything descended from Agalia (I'm looking at YOU Leonie Lamesch). I liked the plants, including Purpurea's, but not being able to enjoy flowers from them due to their inability to withstand the intensity of the sun was the deal breaker. I sent it, and them, on to other homes where they could be provided conditions and positions more suitable to their fragile petals. It likely would have flowered more "continuously" had the heat and water retention of that crumbling ancient sea floor hill could provide, but there was usually evidence of fried flower clusters on the plant.
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Thanks so much for your reply! I’m in Central Florida, so it’s intense sun pretty much all the time. This may not be for my yard but it sure is a pretty rose. Glad yours found a good home!
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You're welcome, but you can probably grow "sun azaleas" in the sun. Even amending for the acidity, we can't. The sun is too hot. Perhaps your humidity may help make the difference?
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Hi, Jason. It's cold hardy to at least z7a which is where I am.
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19 MAY 09 by
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Vintage Gardens is selling "Winecup" under the name Purpurea but notes that this cultivar appears to be the same as the rose Vintage sells under the name Sanguinea.
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Its definitely not Sanguinea, which is light red aging to dark red. The plant of Winecup doesnt even look like a china, to be honest. It looks like a modern hybrid or, at the very least, a complex ogr hybrid like bourbon/china/etc mix.
This rose could possibly be one and the same as Winecup (or maybe a color sport). The plant architecture, petal form and leaves look extremely similar.
http://www.helpmefind.com/rose/l.php?l=2.31368
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