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'Aimée Vibert, Cl.' rose Reviews & Comments
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I'm confused here. Aimee Vibert is said to reach 10' (3m). Is this really a climbing sport of it?
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Two roses:
Aimée Vibert (Noisette, Vibert, 1828)
Aimée Vibert, Cl. (Noisette, Curtis 1841)
It appears to me that the original 1828 rose was a small bush - 1935 “2-3’ high”; 1845 “dwarf, very compact”, and 1861 “dwarfish”. I think the bush and the climber have been confused for a very long time and I am going to leave the 1828 file for a French administrator to correct.
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14 MAY 21 by
 jedmar
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Patricia, I think you are right. It seems that the original 'Aimée Vibert' in bush form got replaced by the climbing sport. A reference of 1894 states: "The climbing form should be chosen when it is used for pillars or walls, as the original strain was of less vigorous growth".
It is not clear whether the bush form is still in gardens and commerce.
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It seems the last we heard of it was from Bunyard in 1936.
Sorry to put this on to you, but I am worried I might miss something in the translations.
It seems ‘Unique’ (see 1846) and ‘Nivea’ (see 1835) were synonyms of the bush and not the climber.
Perhaps it might be appropriate to scan the bush page to record some details; merge the two files so that BUY FROM, GARDENS, CUTTINGS, MEMBERS COMMENTS and PHOTOS are retained in the climbing page; make a new file for the bush and move to the new bush file all references up to 1943-13, along with 1844-90, 1844-16, 1845-75, 1850-182, 1859, 1861-842, 1868-502, 1881-summary, 1882-2? 1888-671, 1911-231, 1836-135 - along with the one old 1835 illustration from Cass. Would that separate the two roses a little more clearly?
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The Journal of Horticulture, Cottage Gardener, and Country Gentleman p. 233 (Mar 31, 1865)
CLIMBING DEVONIENSIS AND ROSE SPORTS.
Henry Curtis, Torquay.
While on the subject of sports it may be interesting to mention that in the year 1840, observing a running or barren shoot on a plant of the old Aimee Vibert Noisette, I immediately budded it on the Celine and fixed it, and I had the pleasure of first sending it to Mr. Rivers as a climbing Aimee Vibert, which character it has since maintained.
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17 AUG 13 by
flodur
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As you may see in references this sport of Aimée Vibert was found by H. (= Henry) and not by William Curtis.
"Henry Curtis's The Beauties of the Rose
This scarce and delightful work, The Beauties of the Rose, Containing Portraits of the Principal Varieties of the Choicest Perpetuals With Plain Instructions for Their Cultivation, was published by noted nurseryman and artist, Henry Curtis. It was published in two parts, 1850 and 1853, in London."
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17 AUG 13 by
jedmar
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You are right, discoverer corrected! Thank you.
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