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Discussion id : 168-823
most recent 20 OCT HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 20 OCT
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Discussion id : 120-277
most recent 18 FEB 20 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 18 FEB 20 by Marlorena
Just a note about the UK name for this rose given as 'Proper Job'...

It seems the name was given with the best of intentions... originally a German bred Tantau rose called 'Gospel' was apparently imported to the UK by the Cornish Rose Company and marketed to appeal to local people in Cornwall and the South West of England in order to support a Charity for terminally ill children..

10 percent of sales would go to the charity... so they chose a name that presumably would appeal to those familiar with the local dialect.. proper job, as Andrew stated, meaning ''something well done'' ''brilliant'' ''perfect'' or used as a term of encouragement...

It would also more likely to be spoken in the local country accent still used by older folk.

In the modern age, with increasing movement of people, the term is less used or understood today I would guess.

So unfortunately, outside of that local area, few would understand its meaning, and it would probably seem rather an odd choice...

There is also a local beer of the same name but I couldn't possibly comment on that..
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Discussion id : 107-844
most recent 8 FEB 18 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 8 FEB 18 by bonbon
In 2002 I purchased a rose named 'Gospel' from Perrotts Nursery in Brisbane. I lost the rose in drought onditions about 2005. I wish to replace it. I think it was red with perhaps a silver reverse. Does anyone in Australia remember it?
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Reply #1 of 4 posted 8 FEB 18 by Marlorena
I can't answer your question, but I had to comment that over here in England, someone in their wisdom decided to call this rose 'Proper Job'. What a ridiculously stupid name, I mean who came up with that?.. it does make me angry. I much prefer 'Gospel' and would have bought it under that name, most likely..
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Reply #2 of 4 posted 8 FEB 18 by Andrew from Dolton
"Praapa jaab" is an expression often used in Devon for something well done, they might also say "That be 'andsome" or "Ideal" as well. There is even a beer named Proper Job. Not that that excuses it for being a rubbish name for a rose!
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Reply #3 of 4 posted 8 FEB 18 by Marlorena
Andrew, I'm from Cornwall originally, and it's used there too - frequently, or used to be so, I'm not so sure nowadays.. I was brought up on it, so perhaps it's this over familiarity that causes the revulsion...? Nah.. it's just a crap name..
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Reply #4 of 4 posted 8 FEB 18 by Andrew from Dolton
Whoever called it 'Proper Job' must be mazed in the 'ead.
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Discussion id : 79-317
most recent 2 JUL 14 HIDE POSTS
 
Initial post 2 JUL 14 by VLAD7
My first year Gospel is kind a burgundy red(must remove from my pink bed),lot of very good substance petals,globular 10 cm flowers,one per stem,short 60 cm bush by now,very healthy greyish blue leaves(despite of lot of mildew and blackspot in my no spray garden cause of the mild last winter),10 basal growth each with flower or bud totally indifferent to the last 4day of heavy rain.No fragrance enough to my nose by now.Tantau describe the color in his 2013 catalogue as ,,romantic pink'''and ,,deep purple on warm summer days turning to a strong burgundy colour on cooler days''.A very promising bush!
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