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'Ypsilanty' rose Reviews & Comments
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I don't know what the edited comment originally said, but antique roses are often named to commemorate historical figures, or contemporary figures who are now historical, and for old rose lovers this adds to their charm. The namesake of this rose, Alexander Ypsilantis , who lived 200 years ago, during the heyday of Romantic nationalism, is certainly historical. Helpmefind's reference page quotes Botanica's Roses (1998) as saying "This variety was named for the Greek patriot and general Prince Alexandr Ypsilante who lived from 1792-1828." Alexander certainly had an adventurous and rather tragic life since he died at age 35 after having spent seven years in an Austrian prison and also losing an arm in battle. He had a brother, Demetrios, for whom the town of Ypsilanti, Michigan, was named.. Both are considered heroes of the Greek independence movement.
As far as the rose, Graham Stuart Thomas, who refers it as "Ipsilanté, writes that "William Paul speaks very highly of this rose, and it certainly produces some most handsome blooms. It is a vigorous plant up to 4 or 5 feet, with good foliage and wide flat blooms, quartered and quilled, of palest lilac pink, 1821" (in The Old Shrub Roses,1957, 71 (p. 147).
Other sources describe the flowers as light purple. Most of the photos seem to show it as a mid pink in color.
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Les frères Ypsilanti descendaient d’une puissante famille grecque de Constatinople. Demetrios 1793 – 1832, aide de camp du Tsar Demetrius appelle les Hélènes au soulèvement contre l’Empire ottoman. Alexandre 1792 – 1828 officier de l’armée russe dans les guerres napoléoniennes, politicien
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5 APR 07 by
Unregistered Guest
The rose "Ypsilante" is named after the Ypsilante brothers (Alexandros and Demetrios). Alexandros proclaimed the Greek revolution against the Turks in 1821 (the year the rose variety was produced), the first successful revolt against ottoman empire. Demetrios participated in many battles against the turks between 1821 and 1832. Both came from a wealthy family and donated their wealth for the revolution.
[HMF editor] Post edited - HMF asks that everyone please refrain from including any religious or political commentary in their posts. This is a site about roses and gardening. Thank you.
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George,
Thank you for this interesting history, we appreciate your contributions to HMF.
Please note we have edited your comments slightly and we hope you understand. In turn, we will understand if you choose to remove your post instead.
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The editor wishes us to 'exclude any secular commentary'? What could that mean? Everything which is not religious is secular. That could include practically everything about roses!
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26 FEB 08 by
jedmar
Background information on rose names are interesting cultural contributions. I agree that, when they concern historic persons and events, it is important to state just facts, without judgement. Sometimes it is difficult to sympathize with the breeder in his choice of name: Who would dedicate a rose today to 'Herero-Trotha' or to 'Atombombe'?
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Oops, yes not the right word but I'm guessing people know what I meant just the same.
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