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'Madame Falcot' rose Reviews & Comments
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Madame Falcot in Europe and the USA isn't the orignal rose. It's Cream with light pink center but Madame Falcot is buff, light yellow and apricot. The original rose is a seedling of Safrano and she's almost identical but has more double blooms. Di Durston has found out that Comtesse Riza du Parc in Australia is in fact the real Madame Falcot. She had Safrano growing in her garden and when she purchased Comtesse Riza du Parc she was surprised about the similarities between Safrano and Riza. Her Riza looked like a double Safrano with identical foliage, wood, buds and petals. The rose she bought as Comtesse Riza du Parc corresponds with the early descriptions and drawings of Madame Falcot
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"Comtesse Riza du Parc (in Australia)" is variously labelled in other countries as Mme Falcot, the "Seven Days Rose", Dr Grill and Mme Charles. Too hard.
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Re: Habit:Thornless (or almost)
How old is this reference please? The older pictures seem to have some quite large thorns.
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#1 of 11 posted
17 JUN 08 by
 jedmar
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The reference is from Singer 1885, who says ''few but quite large prickles''.
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Thank you Jedmar. I am trying to work out if an unknown rose "Wood St. Buff Yellow" could be 'Mme. Falcot'.
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#3 of 11 posted
18 JUN 08 by
jedmar
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Colour of bloom and of new branches would speak for, but the short sepals and form of prickle (admittedly only one) against Mme Falcot.
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Thanks again Jedmar, In that case, can someone move those pictures out of the 'Mme. Falcot' page and into a new page for this Western Australian foundling ""Wood St. Buff Yellow" .
We can add any details once this new page is open.
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#5 of 11 posted
18 JUN 08 by
jedmar
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I think you need opinions on this from more experienced rosarians than mine. I have opened the new page for 'Wood St. Buff Yellow'; but would suggest to leave the comments and pictures as a reference under 'Mme Falcot', too, and upload the pictures and description again under the heading of the Found Rose.
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I doubt if we could find too many more experience than you Jedmar. However....
Viru and Girija - are you out there anywhere? You have written in the 'Australian Rose Annual' 2008, p125 that Mme Falcot "does well in India". Are my pictures what you grow as 'Mme. Falcot'?
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#7 of 11 posted
19 JUN 08 by
cree
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Hi Patricia,
Can you tell if / where Wood St buff Yellow is available? If not, does anyone supply bud wood?
Thanks
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Hello Cree,
See my reply in the "Wood St. Buff Yellow" file.
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#9 of 11 posted
23 JUN 08 by
Unregistered Guest
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The flowers and young growth certainly look like M. Falcot but a distinctive feature of the M.Falcot we grow in India is the yellow green color of the mature foliage. If the mature foliage shows this color than it would confirm that your plantis indeed M.Falcot.
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#10 of 11 posted
9 JUL 18 by
HubertG
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From the Rosen-Zeitung 1888, page 36:
"Im Jahre 1864 kamen in den Handel ...
... 3. Madame Charles (Thee, Damaizin); Blume mittelgross, leicht gefüllt, Farbe dunkel nankinggelb, halbkugelförmig; ein Gegenstück der Mme. Falcot"
Onto the market in the year 1864 came ...
... 3. Madame Charles (Tea, Damaizin); Flower medium sized, lightly double, colour dark nankeen yellow, hemispherical form; a counterpart to Mme. Falcot.
Edit: Uh-oh! I just realised I posted this under Mme Falcot really intending it for Mme Charles, No matter - it refers to Mme Falcot anyway. I'll leave it up for now.
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I have added the reference to 'Mme. Charles'. Thanks HubertG
(Rather than tacking your new comment on to the end of a 2008 thread, you can always make a new comment.)
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taken from Bennet, J. 1889. The winter on the Genoese Riviera, roses in a limestone soil. Pages 551-552 in: Gardeners chronicle & new horticulturist, Volume 1:
"All who wish here to make money by Roses in winter, plant and cultivate the Safrano, and little else. Madame Falcot is equally good and tractable, but is much more sparse in blooming, and cannot be relied upon in the same way for a remunerative crop."
This indicates Mme Falcot should be an excellent winter bloomer.
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I've just posted the clone from Viru and Girija, unfortunately not a very good picture
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