Just a note on the provenance of my Niphetos, the plant of which I have posted a number of pictures. I purchased it from Roses Unlimited in South Carolina. After somebody on an antique rose forum questioned if it was actually Mrs. Herbert Stevens, I contacted Roses Unlimited, and they said their plant came from a mother plant from Vintage Roses, which used to sell both Mrs. HS and Niphetos, and distinguished between them in their catalog. I haven't grown Mrs. HS to compare, but my plant does seem to match the old pictures of Niphetos, although I'm not an expert at identification. I have it growing outside, but I am in a very mild climate, and it is still not a vigorous shrub.